Thursday 22 October 2015

'Scheming and Fraud Fill Its Squares...'

Failing 'the Our Father test': The Pope and the Church cannot permit the overturning of Christ's teachings

Do read Fr Ray Blake's excellent piece on the Synod of Mess today.

The Pope and his advisers simply cannot do what is being suggested that is their intention in the Rorate piece today without violating - doing a great violence - to Christ's mission on Earth, to His Church, to souls and to Marriage and the Family.

The Kasper proposal - in fact - what is threatened as being the pre-determined 'end game' of the Synod, cannot be squared with the prayer taught to us by Our Lord, let alone His explicit teaching on marriage itself.

As Fr Hunwicke makes quite plain, you really do need a new definition of papal infallibility in order to justify a Pope 'twisting God's hand' in order to overturn God's own verdict on sin, marriage, repentance, the Divine Law, etc.

Quite a long time ago I mused on the possible prospect of Catholics being faced with an unsavory decision concerning whether to obey the Pope or obey Christ. 

One would have thought that if what is being proposed at the Synod does not meet the 'Our Father' test, then it would be thrown out as garbage pronto yet there it is, still rotting away at the Synod like month old onion skins.

This isn't the proclamation or prayer for Christ's Kingdom being discussed. I'm not sure God's holy will is being seriously considered by anyone but those who bravely stand up for Christ. This isn't about 'forgiveness' but toleration and blessing of sin. It isn't about being led away or out of temptation and it certainly isn't about being delivered from evil.

We can - we can dare - to say 'Our Father' because Jesus Christ taught us to. If our Heavenly Father has a different view on marriage, adultery, sin and repentance in Germany and Switzerland and overlooks it, and tolerates it there, but not in Poland and Africa, not only would it be impossible to see how the Church is One, Holy and Universal, but it would cast great doubt whether God is One and Holy, as if God would say, 

"No, no, do whatever you like. I'm liberal when I'm in Munich, but much more intolerant of sin in Warsaw."

It doesn't just mock the oneness of the Church. Even Almighty isn't given the honour and the Catholic belief in God falls apart.

So actually, I should have done a line through 'Hallowed be Thy Name'.

Do these people even believe in Heaven?

7 comments:

Patricius said...

You ask "Do these people even believe in Heaven?"
You have a point but I think that at the heart of it there is a simpler explanation. They do not believe in divine revelation. They do not believe the Gospel. That Cardinal Kasper is wobbly on the Resurrection perhaps says it all because it is the same attitude to the scriptures that seeks to relativise Christ's clear words on marriage, in the one instance, and on the Blessed Sacrament on the other.

E George said...

We either need a new definition of papal infallibility or we need a new definition of pope. Somethin' just ain't quite right about the Benedict-Francis transition, and that ain't-rightness is bearing fruit in the current Synod. I don't have any worries about infallibility, in other words. Also, to answer your question: yes, these innovators do believe in heaven. For them it is,however, experienced before death, based on their attempts to make it comport with Church teaching. What they don't believe in is hell, or they'd be more worried about how not to go there.

Annie said...

The synodized Our Father:

Our Father, who art in Heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And tolerate our trespasses.

Amen

Liam Ronan said...

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7

"For the time is, that judgement should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God?" 1 Peter 4:7

Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us. said...

They believe in themselves and their modernism. At odds with Pius X and Christ.

One never has to choose between the Petrine Office and Christ, because a public Pope is Christ's proxy on earth. Therefore, as St Bellarmine concluded in unison with the Church he inherited, a 'manifestly prowling wolf ipso fact loses all authority'. Bergoglio is no more Christ's 'vicarius', than Calvin or Luther or Alastair Crowley. If we have the faith and know the faith and believe the faith, we know and believe this truth.

The interregnum continues; as does the heresiarchs' program of using once Catholic Sees and architecture to ready souls for antichrist.

Unknown said...

"No, no, do whatever you like. I'm liberal when I'm in Munich, but much more intolerant of sin in Warsaw."

Hahaha. Yep that's what it's come down to.

Seattle kim

Anonymous said...

Liberal in Munich, but with a lot of money, Poland is a case apart, churches are full, yes it's true, but in Poland there are 130 exorcists, guess why in Rome they are but a few and none in Germany, go figure. God bless+

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